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Naf Olbaid · Feb 25, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Thanks for the sound advice. Won't be arguing with you.

Hyprodimus Prime · Feb 25, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by African War Lord

Say what you will but offer advice atleast, and don't flame me if you don't try the build. Most of you don't even try it out you just assume. On paper it may not look good but go out on the battlefield and go after a mesmer or necro and laugh as you remove that spoil victor and migraine at the same time and rape them both. Watch a boa sin shadow step to you only not to be able to even start his chain. And the damage isn't as pathetic as your all suggesting.

People who have been playing ele for a longer time can test concepts in their mind. Even in RA, this is a bad build. Your hex removal is ok though (just for RA). I agree with the others, damage sucks. You are better off dual atuned and Airspike with Hammer/Orb. You can still use Aura of restoration as a cover/fodder for Pious Restoration.

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Originally Posted by Naf Olbaid

Thanks for the sound advice. Won't be arguing with you.

Who are you talking to? Ensign or AWL?

Ensign · Feb 25, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime

Who are you talking to? Ensign or AWL?

He's talking to me. We have a new forum dunce and this one has an attitude too.

Peace,
-CxE

African War Lord · Feb 25, 2007, 08:40 PM // 20:40

don't highjack my perfect build thread out of jealousy guys. Let's just all agree that it's one of the best builds ever made and let's talk about how amazing it really is.

discuss..

Ensign · Feb 25, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I actually like the Pious Restoration. Otherwise your build is a steaming pile of donkey shit.

Peace,
-CxE

Thom Bangalter · Feb 25, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by African War Lord

don't highjack my perfect build thread out of jealousy guys. Let's just all agree that it's one of the best builds ever made and let's talk about how amazing it really is.

discuss..

are you Katina? The only person who makes the best builds and has perfect threads is Katina.

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Originally Posted by Naf Olbald

Thanks for the sound advice. Won't be arguing with you.

who are you?

Coloneh · Feb 26, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Otherwise your build is a steaming pile of donkey shit.

that made me laugh quite loudly, but i have to agree

African War Lord · Feb 26, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04

nope. anet released this today.

"In light of the recent influx of unstoppable E/D's in TA, we've decided to make one of the new professions in chapter 4 someone who is capable of dealing with such an overpowered character. As of right now there is no way of defeating a group of these super powered elementalists so we apologize if your being beaten up repeatedly by, in my opinion, a combination of skills more powerfull than god himself."

Katari · Feb 26, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

The build listed in the OP is nowhere near "unstopable." Certainly not in TA.

Hyprodimus Prime · Feb 26, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by Ensign

He's talking to me. We have a new forum dunce and this one has an attitude too.

Not that it has any meaning to the actual thread (sorry AWL, but its all been discussed) But I remember the first/only time Ensign and I crossed. When Ether Prism was all the craze I tried to figure out the break point or w/e that you can get max energy from it (before its nerf). We just learned functions in school and I thought I'd try that. In the end I got this long equation like y=x+2(max energy)+50(2/5) or something like that. I did work, but then Ensign comes a long and says, "all you need is 2/3 of your max energy". Out of shock, I argue, but I did lose because of course, Ensign's 2/3 thing worked without all the redundant calculations I did. I soon relalised it was him who did the very neat armor calculator I use with every build and I beleive it was also you who did the adrenaline tests was it not? Anyways, keep up the good work.

Thom Bangalter · Feb 26, 2007, 05:32 AM // 05:32

hyprodimus, you forgot his groundbreaking essay on focus swapping a year and a half ago.

LightningHell · Feb 26, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

It's relatively old, he might not have seen it. I'm just judging according to the dates on joining forum, so I might be wrong. And I thought focus swapping was already pretty prevalent back then...

It's still on Team iQ forums, though. And I don't get why many people don't focus swap more.

Also, since we've already given pretty much many reasons why your build is not as godly as it is, can you now give some reasons why we would have to kneel to your "perfect build"?

African War Lord · Feb 26, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

well if your a mesmer who likes to backfire ele's go pick another ele cause it ain't happening. Basically the first build tricks you because if you choose to use the common counters to ele's you won't succeed.

The second build is a power house that spams lava arrows looking for bunched up foes. In a couple of hits you can wipe out a whole army of spirits and it put's alot of pressure on the monks when damage is being done to 3 people at a time. So if you hit 3 that's almost 200 damage every 2 seconds your dishing out. Also with mirage cloak, any melee is a joke and rangers rarely succeed in interupting you.

3rd build brings the hammer down. It has a serious spike, infact one of the funniest things I've ever seen was yesterday when a monk in RA used frenzied defense and I hit her twice for 280 and she died lol. That build is godly for it's damage and it's defense. Each cast of lightning hammer heals you for 79 I believe. A possible -140 to them, +79 to you, sounds like a good deal to me!

bhavv · Feb 26, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Sorry, but I agree with everyone that realises that mind blast is crap.

Its worse then dual attunement and flare, and flare is the noobest skill in the game (yes mending is more usefull).

Lava arrows is trash too.

The lightning hammer build is good if you swap [skill]Mystic regeneration[/skill] with [skill]Blinding flash[/skill] and [skill]Aura of restoration[/skill] with [skill]Gale[/skill]

Yes I just tested your first build right now cos i were bored. Pathetic, virtually no damage, dead in 5 seconds with no monk.

Dr Strangelove · Feb 26, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Sorry, but I agree with everyone that realises that mind blast is crap.

Its worse then dual attunement and flare, and flare is the noobest skill in the game (yes mending is more usefull).

Lava arrows is trash too.

The lightning hammer build is good if you swap [skill]Mystic regeneration[/skill] with [skill]Blinding flash[/skill] and [skill]Aura of restoration[/skill] with [skill]Gale[/skill]

Mind blast can actually be pretty darn sexy. 7 net energy every 2 seconds or so, with a little damage thrown in for kicks? However, it IS crap when you attempt to use it as a source of damage. Of course, so is glowing gaze, and that doesn't make it a sucky skill. Aura of restoration is actually most at home in a dual attuned air build. You get reasonably large heals from spamming 15e and 25e spells, and, more importantly, it covers up your precious, precious enchants without which you're screwed. However, you don't need mystic regen on top of it. Blinding flash will prevent a heck of a lot more damage than mystic regen will ever heal.

I'll agree that flare and lava arrows are weak sauce. There's just better things to do with your time.

The major problems with the build posted here is that they just don't do anything important with the energy from mind blast. He's using it to fuel, erm, mystic regeneration and lava arrows?

African War Lord · Feb 26, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Sorry, but I agree with everyone that realises that mind blast is crap.

Its worse then dual attunement and flare, and flare is the noobest skill in the game (yes mending is more usefull).

Lava arrows is trash too.

The lightning hammer build is good if you swap [skill]Mystic regeneration[/skill] with [skill]Blinding flash[/skill] and [skill]Aura of restoration[/skill] with [skill]Gale[/skill]

Yes I just tested your first build right now cos i were bored. Pathetic, virtually no damage, dead in 5 seconds with no monk.

The first build does kind of suck if your not facing hexes. The second build is the power house, and the third is good for damage and staying alive. After trying the air spike I realize how crappy the fire damage was but never the less it's more of a good sync of skills that allows for you to always be doing something. Lava arrows got buffed and it's sexy as hell vs. rits.

If I swapped the skills like you said on the air spiker I'd have to rely on a monk to heal me. Too many times I get a monk on my team with severe artery and heal signet and that's what inspired these builds.

Operations · Feb 26, 2007, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Mind blast can actually be pretty darn sexy. 7 net energy every 2 seconds or so, with a little damage thrown in for kicks? However, it IS crap when you attempt to use it as a source of damage. Of course, so is glowing gaze, and that doesn't make it a sucky skill.

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I'll agree that flare and lava arrows are weak sauce. There's just better things to do with your time.

Mind Blast can be great with Fire Attunement as a 'reload' skill that let's you regen energy faster while waiting for the artillery to refresh. As a prime source of damage? No, agreed. In the end, for PvP, I'll take Mind Blast only because Savanna Heat is reliant on people not kiting. Mind Blast at least requires no LOS, and is still more damage than your wand/staff.

Lava Arrows can be fun in PvE...

they did get a cool animation. The recent buff to damage makes them a little better, but I'd rather have seen the range buffed.

frojack · Feb 26, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

I must say I'm not a great fan of Mind Blast. It's a good skill for constant front-loading, but that's really about it... Well I guess it's because it's in fire that I'm a bit 'who cares' about the skill. If it was in water I'd probably be raving about it _-_...

Anyways theres really no need for all the hostility. Could be wrong though

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Also Pious Restoration is amazing. Simple as that. The ability to remove 2 hexes for the cost of a mere 4 in air prayers and losing Aura of Rest or something is stupidly good. Too good? Maybe I should keep my mouth shut...

Ensign · Feb 26, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

If you're using Mind Blast as a primary damage dealer you're retarded. Mind Blast is a followup to bigger spells that you use to add a bit more damage and smooth out your energy so you don't wind down - much as how Glowing Gaze was used to follow up Searing Flames before the next one, but more universally. If you're ever spamming Mind Blast for damage you're doing something wrong.

I don't understand why you're all down on Lava Arrows. 3 targets for 68 damage for 5e 1c? That seems pretty good. It is a medium (nearby) AoE, if people are bunched up at all you'll get all 3 targets easily. Granted, the half range part makes it a very narrow skill, and that's why you won't see me using it. But the damage and AoE on it is attractive, I can't understand why you'd ever knock the skill on those grounds.

Peace,
-CxE

Dr Strangelove · Feb 27, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by Ensign

I don't understand why you're all down on Lava Arrows. 3 targets for 68 damage for 5e 1c? That seems pretty good. It is a medium (nearby) AoE, if people are bunched up at all you'll get all 3 targets easily. Granted, the half range part makes it a very narrow skill, and that's why you won't see me using it. But the damage and AoE on it is attractive, I can't understand why you'd ever knock the skill on those grounds.

Peace,
-CxE

Here is why you should never use lava arrows: